Innovative Deck design!

Arch_Raziel · Joined: 06 Jul 2008 Posts: 26

Holy crap everyone, I have this brand new INNOVATIVE deck design!! Ok, here goes...

4 Rune Snag
4 Ancestral Vision
4 Cryptic Command
4 Bitterblossom
3 Sower of Temptation
4 Mistbind Clique
4 Scion of Oona
4 Spellstutter Sprite
4 Underground River
2 Pendelhaven
1 Faerie Conclave
2 Sunken Ruins
4 River of Tears
4 Mutavault
4 Snow-Covered Island
4 Secluded Glen
4 Terror
2 Flashfreeze
4 Thoughtseize
1 Murderous Redcap
2 Slaughter Pact
3 Razormane Masticore
3 Damnation

Ok, so i'm sure you'll all think it's just another Faeries deck, but here's what's innovative... I've replaced all the cards, with the exact same cards! wow, how come no ones thought of this before???

Ok, so... This is obviously not a serious 'new build', but here is where we get to the point of my post: apparantly, 90% of you people on this site seem to have it set in your mind that the only way to make a good deck is to take the deck that the #1 player who has built a deck/won with that deck, and copy it. anyone who tries to post anything slightly different and then ask for any form of advice is met with "well, see those cards taht aren't in this guys format? *points to decklist of the last PT winner*. Remove every card that isn't in there, and replace it with this deck." What is wrong with this, you might ask? Well, some people, when they ask for advice, tend to include a small clause that you people either don't understand or can't comprehend (which since most magic players like to think that they have some form of an IQ, either of those being the cause astounds and disappoints me) that they aren't asking what cards are missing from so-and-so's build, but what they can throw in to further the deck's goals or tweak what it does in a small but efficient manner. And if that wasn't bad enough, then you all gang up on the person when they try to re-explain and get it through your skulls that if they wanted the exact same deck, they would look up the decklist and copy it, and use misspelled phrases that you think makes you more cool (using ph as an f doesn't make you l337, and therefore makes you even more of a loser than those who use l337, because you try to and ph41|_ at it. that's right, PH41|_! If you're going to do something that nerdy, do it properly. You want to copy everything else to the nth degree, why not that?), probably out of some pitiful attempt to make up for the fact that you can't be competent at the game unless you use someone else's deck. Your inferiority complexes flair each time I read your posts, and I am somewhere between amused and sickened by how many of you suffer from such disorders. (They make medications for those things, yknow.)

Now then, for those of you who ARENT some of the nice ppl (edited by flippi) , I thank you all cordially, and hope that you never sink to such a level as them.

Disclaimer: For those of you who ARE on meds to treat your severe inferiority complex and they aren't working well enough to fully suppress your compulsion to act like a witless moron, I apologize, as you truly have a problem. You truly can't help yourselves, and for that I do feel sorry for you.

And, with that, I open this thread to you all, so you may all prove my points to the letter. I will revel in each sad attempt to show me just how wrong I am, which will only argue my case for me.

Arch_Raziel · Joined: 06 Jul 2008 Posts: 26

I laugh at myself for my really long paragraph. Laughing

Lynolf · Joined: 25 Aug 2007 Posts: 255

Well, besides being a very stupid thread, which will be deleted soon, its lol at the same time. Laughing

Stucco · Joined: 14 Mar 2005 Posts: 558

Crosis_DaJoo · Joined: 13 May 2008 Posts: 18

There are stupid people in the world, many can't see innovation in a deck because it has not been proven/ they think the only way to have fun is to win the tournament, sure it is fun to win competatively, but magic was designed to be casual so you should have fun doing that.

If they bash you ignore it, but learn from what the intelligent people have to say.

Arch_Raziel · Joined: 06 Jul 2008 Posts: 26

Arch_Raziel · Joined: 06 Jul 2008 Posts: 26

rdeg87 · Joined: 29 Apr 2007 Posts: 181

So its a a fairy deck but you have decided to play the sideboard in the main deck. Hows that workin out for ya

Eldariel · Joined: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 203

Too long post. Please abbreviate.

ransom3 · Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 165

i cant read gud can you explain better plz

Finntroll · Joined: 02 May 2006 Posts: 11

So like, what are you trying to accomplish with this post? To let the assholes know they're jerks? I'm pretty sure they knew that already. Is it to try and end eArrogance? Because let's face it guy, as long as there is the internet people will act like elitist jerks because they can (and some of them even feel accomplished while doing so, so good luck trying to change those people).

Now on the other hand, if you're trying to propose that more people should be innovative and stop net-decking, while that's just impossible. I mean, let's face it, not everyone is innovative, and not everyone has the time to test a deck and figure out the best cards, so to save themselves some time they net-deck. Many net-deckers will in fact change a build from the original design they find, and those are the smart people because they understand that a deck that did well was prepared for the meta it was in, and the meta at your local place might be very different.

So please, lay it out to me what you're trying to accomplish with this rant, because it really just sounds like you're bitching and moaning.

Engrishskill · Joined: 15 Jan 2007 Posts: 452

So by the "logic" in part of your rant, you are basically implying that the Japanese are useless because they take things and use innovation to make them better or almost different.

Better yet, look at Japanese decks. Think and then delete your forum account.

Your pseudo psychology babbling is laughable. Take more courses at your community college, kid.

Also, check out the deck that placed third in the most recent tourney. Keysam piloted a pretty original deck, didn't he? The deck still adheres to concepts like "if you want to draw something consistently, play four or more" and the lovely lovely idea of playing cards that do well against the dominant decks in the format.

Vedrfolner · Joined: 04 Apr 2006 Posts: 1399

Arch_Raziel... I have made more decks than your tiny mind can imagine. Most of them quite innovative. Looking at your posts so far, you have done nothing innovative at all.

A RG ramp deck that is worse than the already proven RG ramp deck. There is nothing innovative in this. Okay - if the deck is a year old, then yes it is innovative (TS standard), but I don't think it is that old. The RG manaramp type of deck did already exist when that deck was made.

A elf swarm deck using a 2-card enchantment combo to spawn lots of tokens. I haven't seen the combo before so yes, the combo is probably new. But the elf swarm archetype isn't new. And when you post a decklist on this forum, you will get advice on how to make it more _competitive_ , what other kind of advice do you think should be given? People try to help you make your deck better, not worse or more "innovative".

What is the purpose of innovation if it does not improve what already exists?

I have to remind you that the only impolite, juvenile, confrontational and arrogant poster on this forum right now... is you. If anyone sports a inferiority complex here it is you; both your angry/tough-on-the-internet tone and your focus on proving yourself through "innovative" deck designs shows that you are a loser in real life, trying to compensate on the internet.

My advice for the GR Hellkite deck wasn't about making it a netdeck; it was about putting better cards in it. How arrogant is it to assume that the "pros" are wrong and you are right; 19 lands is better than 23-24 in a big mana deck? Math is wrong and you are right? That the best cards are often used in netdecks isn't a reason to use weaker cards!

If you look at the sentences I used "phail" in, you will see that if I did replace it with "fail", the sentences wouldn't make sense. There is simply no such expression as "epic fail".

ManaLeak · Joined: 08 Nov 2005 Posts: 131

well i am a mindless automation?
A Clone?
A simple vesuvan doppelganger?
I think not..

there is a few facts here that are constant

A Smile

the All human Race has free will
B Smile

Everyone wants the world to revolve around them.
C Smile

In a Competitive game people want to win.
D Smile

Fae pwns! lawl i liekz pollz!
E Smile

Ranting doesn't belong in standard section of this forum.

Trotsky1 · Joined: 12 Apr 2005 Posts: 899

I've been testing the deck you posted and its really good, you are really inivative.