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GewoonDaan · Joined: 24 Apr 2007 Posts: 12

Example:

Type
Creature spells xx%
Non-creature spells xx%*
Land xx%

Color
White xx% (cards) / yy% (colored mana symbols on all cards)
Blue xx% / yy%
Black xx% / yy%
Red xx% / yy%
Green xx% / yy%
Artifact xx% / N/A
Multicolored xx%** / N/A

So if my two picks were a Fork and an Ancestral Recall (or if that are the two cards I selected), it would be:
Blue 50% / 33.3%
Red 50% / 66.6%

* maybe it would be could if you could make this drop down to see the percentages for instant/sorcery/enchantment/artifact if you really wanted to
** Maybe -not sure about this- it would be better to make multicolored cards count for each of it's colors, so if I picked a Shadowmage Infiltrator and a Terror, it would be
Black 100 %
Blue 50%
instead of
Black 50 %
Multi 50 %

Jorbes · Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 291 Location: Netherland

hm, i might implement the 1st idea, but the color idea just seems too complex for most people to even understand what the percentages would mean.
And the whole point about percentages is that the total % = 100, where in your example it would be possible to go above 200 even.

Considering modifying these things in the program does not affect backwards compatibility, these modifications do not have a high priority for the next release, but I'll keep it in mind and keep track of the feedback provided by the users.

GewoonDaan · Joined: 24 Apr 2007 Posts: 12

Jorbes · Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 291 Location: Netherland

if there is time, i'll think about implementing some of your ideas.

nico · Administrator Joined: 28 Oct 2003 Posts: 831

hmm, what I usually do to determine the manabase is count all the colored mana per color, and then see what the fraction of it is of the total amount of colored mana, assuming that I usually play with something like 17 land in a 40 card deck.
Basically, this method shows me the portions of land per color that I would need. What it doesnot show is how desperately I want the colored mana for a certain spell, wich maybe of importance to determine the final land color count.

Greetz Nico

GewoonDaan · Joined: 24 Apr 2007 Posts: 12

that's what i was trying to say Razz

Jorbes · Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 291 Location: Netherland

nico · Administrator Joined: 28 Oct 2003 Posts: 831

Daan, in your example you could get 100% of a certain color and go over 100%. The way i calculate things is like this:

suppose I have a deck with:
4 adder staff boggart (1R)
3 cloudcrown oak (3GG)
1 nath of the gilt-leaf (3BG)

in this example there are 12 colored mana symbols, of wich

4 are red
7 are green
1 is black

So basically I would need a mana base of 30% red sources, 60% green sources and 10% black sources.

All roughly ofcourse and always depending on how hard you need to be able to cast the spells you want to cast

Greetz Nico

GewoonDaan · Joined: 24 Apr 2007 Posts: 12

Youre all just mixing up my ideas, giving arguments against the one and then proposing the other as your own idea Razz

I dont mind though, as long as it gets implemented ^_^

Jorbes · Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 291 Location: Netherland

I'll do the thing in nico's last post, im sure you also had this idea Daan.

nico · Administrator Joined: 28 Oct 2003 Posts: 831

sorry for not correctly quoting, but this is what you calculated:

** Maybe -not sure about this- it would be better to make multicolored cards count for each of it's colors, so if I picked a Shadowmage Infiltrator and a Terror, it would be
Black 100 %
Blue 50%
instead of
Black 50 %
Multi 50 %

******

the way I would do it makes it 33% blue and 66% black. I always break numbers down to fractions. I find it easier to work with when you don't go over the 100% wich it would be in your example. We both have the same idea, but going over 100% totals would be counter intuitive to me. Not saying one method is better than the other, but just saying that it doesnot work that way for me.

Greetz Nico