UBw Kelpie Control (sounds better than Grave Games)

standarizeMA · Joined: 09 Mar 2008 Posts: 122

Here's my current list I've been testing and will be testing for the next few weeks for Star City Game's $5k open in Boston, Massachusetts. It splashes white, because even though Oversoul of Dusk isn't played often, it's good to have an answer for that and an easier answer Main deck for colossus, Crib Swap..

Lands: [26]
6x Island
4x Sunken Ruins
2x Mystic Gate
3x Vivid Marsh
3x Vivid Creek
2x Mutavault
4x Swamp
2x Reflecting Pool

Creatures: [14]
4x Mulldrifter
3x Shriekmaw
3x Soul Snuffers
1x Puppeteer Clique
3x River Kelpie

Spells: [20]
4x Broken Ambitions
3x Nameless Inversion
4x Cryptic Command
1x Oona's Grave
2x Raven's Crime
3x Makeshift Mannequin
3x Crib Swap

Sideboard:
4x Thoughtseize
1x Shriekmaw
1x Nameless Inversion
1x Soul Snuffers
3x Biting Tether
2x Wispmare
3x Murderous Redcap

Thoughts / Suggestions / Critique ?

ZW · Joined: 25 Apr 2008 Posts: 174

How do you beat the faerie and kithkin decks which are occasionally played?

KeySam · Joined: 14 Oct 2005 Posts: 545

ZW this deck has a pretty good matchup against both kithkin and faeries, if its played right. BTw i also think that a white splash for swap should be good. I would then kick the nameless and play 3 crime 4 Maw 4 swap, should be better in my opinion. Also you need the 4th Ravens Crime in the sideboard. You can even think about hallowed burial/Austere Command in the sideboard if you play white.

KeySam

NanoWar · Joined: 26 Apr 2008 Posts: 14

Treadwell · Joined: 22 Mar 2008 Posts: 10

I played kelpie control at a ptq and went 3-2 had to fight collousus in 2 of my matches then I also beat kithkin and in stead of crib swap I had sowers and curse of chain in my sb and they really pulled through for me.

I ended up losing to kithkin and rdw.
In my opinion this deck has an awful matchup against red.
Against kithkin you need alot of removal and quick otherwise they ride on you at your own bbq. So Id say more removal and throw some sowers in there.

Treadwell · Joined: 22 Mar 2008 Posts: 10

oh yea trip noose maybe? against oversoul? If ur gunna still splash white though I wouldnt suggest it.

ZW · Joined: 25 Apr 2008 Posts: 174

How does this beat faeries??? And unless the kithkin player is unable to play around snuffers, how does it beat kithkin?

KeySam · Joined: 14 Oct 2005 Posts: 545

ZW you should probably play the deck to see how it works exactly, but it does beat both decks. I dont say its like 90% for you but they matchups are both in your favor. Ravens crime is very good against faeries and the hole deck is pretty well suited to beat kithkin. Soulsnuffers is very good card againt both of them. I suggest playtesting the deck, to see all the angles.

KeySam

ZW · Joined: 25 Apr 2008 Posts: 174

I have played versus gravegames around 20 times with kithkin, and it seems to be like a favorable matchup to me, especially because this list lacks sowers, which is the best card in the blue versus kithkins.

KeySam · Joined: 14 Oct 2005 Posts: 545

If you want we can play some games against each other, both swapping the decks(faeries/kithkin vs gravegames). I can only tell you things i expirenced.

KeySam

ZW · Joined: 25 Apr 2008 Posts: 174

yea keysam, we can play, but I'm banned from #magic-league at the momenent, so if you could go to #jajaja we could set up a game.

Acid_Christ · Joined: 28 Aug 2004 Posts: 515

ChiDoRiE · Joined: 26 Feb 2008 Posts: 46

it's a control deck..if both decks are played flawlessly, faeries has about 60% against it

I personally have never lost to a 5-color deck in a tournament with faeries, including 3 rounds in the x-0 or x-1 bracket, x>3, at GP Denver, and three rounds in the PTQ the next day (epic fail Sad

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standarizeMA · Joined: 09 Mar 2008 Posts: 122

Kithkin and faeries are nowhere near as bad of matchups as you think. I'd play Sower but in the testing I've done he's absolutely horrible, never has stayed a turn lol. Raven's Crime is pretty damn good against faeries. Not to mention if you know what the card Soul Snuffers is, i heard its pretty good against Bitterblossom. I agree that red deck wins is Grave Games worst matchup, however, it's not unbeatable. THe deck fizzles sometimes..and there are answers to many Demigods. Not to mention 3 inversions 3 shrieks and 3 crib swaps..

ShaunD · Joined: 21 May 2005 Posts: 76

If the deck has such a good match-up vs. Kithkin and Faeries why isn't it already a tier 1 deck in the enviroment. Archon Toast only has a 50/50 match up vs. those decks and its a top tier deck. KeySam is the worst person to get advice from.