Upcoming August 30th SEE Sealed Invitational

by Kev on 2008-07-29 10:06 MST

Maximum Sweetness, too bad i can't compete. I will be at Mysteryland, partying all day and night long :D:D:D

by gypsy on 2008-07-29 10:07 MST

what program are you using for the draft

by cm_ on 2008-07-29 10:21 MST

w00t w00t w00t

by Az-cz on 2008-07-29 10:25 MST

Argh! Finally something good for limited players and it happens one weekend I can't possible play :(

by calcano on 2008-07-29 11:10 MST

ptq :(

by Linkman on 2008-07-29 11:11 MST

Indeed, but Magic-league always plans in the wrong weekends.

by sandoiche on 2008-07-29 11:13 MST

Wtf no team invites??

by bobjackson on 2008-07-29 11:47 MST

What time does it start, can it possibly start around 10 PST?

by Shagrath on 2008-07-29 11:51 MST

3 pm gmt plz.
Congrats for the initiative. Finally a limited invitational.

by RiQuSP on 2008-07-29 12:07 MST

Nice!

Too bad I'm also @ Mysteryland that weekend...

by Kev on 2008-07-29 12:14 MST

It's rly too bad, since i went 8-1 in the sealed portion of the GP

by D4rk3z on 2008-07-29 12:37 MST

Great.

by Pekken on 2008-07-29 12:45 MST

Stupid GP Copenhagen...

by PV on 2008-07-29 14:37 MST

I think its a good idea, but I don't think it makes any sense to invite t4 in 'other' - this seemns it's just giving 4 invites to the 4 judges who bother to make tournaments in formats only they know about the most

by Karla on 2008-07-29 14:57 MST

:/ i love the idea but i cant play this suck's ¬¬

by Goodman120 on 2008-07-29 15:15 MST

nice, but what about teams?

by PaUl0_BRA on 2008-07-29 15:26 MST

No team invites? LOL

by CMA-Flippi on 2008-07-29 15:39 MST

PV: Among the TOp4 in "other" rating, there's exactly 1 judge.

by Linkman on 2008-07-29 23:51 MST

The calender says 8/9. Is this august 9 or sept 8?

by Avata on 2008-07-30 00:28 MST

Even though it's unlikely I'll be able to play in this event, I'd still like to say thanks for putting on a limited invitational, since I love limited.

So, thanks. :)

by Conkisstador on 2008-07-30 01:08 MST

sweeeeeeeeeeeeeet time to make some moneys!
i'm the one judge, PV, and it's mostly from post-patch pre-legal sets. also top4 other are already represented in other qualifications.

netdraft for top8? saved replays and play in mws? hamachi has bugs.
wee wha wowwa
i can't wait.
\o/
w00t

by Az-cz on 2008-07-30 02:04 MST

It seems a lot of people have other commitments? Any chance of moving it back a week to Aug. 30?

by Shagrath on 2008-07-30 02:38 MST

team invites isn´t fair, cuz most of ppl cant stay here 24/7 like you hispanic kids.

Another thing, is 9/8 master going to have the same format as invitational? sealed swiss + top8 draft?

by kreff on 2008-07-30 02:42 MST

allways u choose the best date!!!
its just spanish nat ._.
thnks !! :(

by Rotstejn on 2008-07-30 03:30 MST

great !

perfect date and perfect format ^^

by beule on 2008-07-30 04:21 MST

GP copenhagen :\

by Ethren on 2008-07-30 06:02 MST

Yes its spanish nat:((

by CMA-Flippi on 2008-07-30 08:43 MST

Master is moved 1 week back to 30th

by Conkisstador on 2008-07-30 08:58 MST

lies. no it's not.

by Conkisstador on 2008-07-30 08:59 MST

the squeeky wheel always gets oil. there's no incentive for people who LIKE the date to say they like it but there IS incentive for people who DONT like it to say so.
changing it on absurd pretences is in itself absurd.

aug 23.

here's my wheel being squeaky against ANYTHING not dated august 23. on principal and function.

by Shagrath on 2008-07-30 09:16 MST

there's no reason to change dates. just because invitational date is the same of spanish nats doesn´t mean that it must be changed, cuz the world doesn´t stop because of spanish nats.
maybe in other date it will be bad for some1 else and then other ppl will complain
again, so if gerrardfo and his crew decided that invitational will happen in this date, we all must accept that.

by CMA-Flippi on 2008-07-30 10:04 MST

aside from sp. nats, theres also GP kopenhagen on 23 august

by Conkisstador on 2008-07-30 10:29 MST

german nats and gp manila are on aug. 30th.

here's the squeaky wheel against aug30

by Haro on 2008-07-30 10:59 MST

by Conkisstador on 2008-07-30 12:29 EDT

german nats and gp manila are on aug. 30th.

here's the squeaky wheel against aug30
---------

Too bad there are no good German players on magic-league xD

*runs from the flaming*

by magic_man11 on 2008-07-30 14:47 MST

I must agree with conkistador on this one! There's no reason the date should be moved. I mean why is spanish nats and gp copenhagen ne different from german nats and gp manilla. I mean if you were to change the date shouldnt it be a date where there is no other large money tournaments?

by PureControl on 2008-07-30 15:13 MST

I find it hard to believe you guys didnt know the Gp's dates.

by Ashmatan on 2008-07-30 15:14 MST

I think invitationals are stupid to begin with cuz it ousts the chance for any players to compete that have a lot of game, but just aren't up to snuff with the online portion of magic (only m-l I mean) and don't have all the time in the world to veg out in front of their screen to up their rating like most of the people that have their limited and constructed points sky high. The only way to do that would be to enter every trial and mini possible and try your hardest to win the frist round and then just drop cuz no one would be able to afford a loss in the meantime. In a nutshell, I'm saying that I personally feel that I have a lot of game and could do well depending on what I would crack, but feel segregated from the tourney only due to the fact that I don't play enough to have my rating high enough to be given an invitation. That is bogus.

by nico on 2008-07-30 15:42 MST

ashmatan, did you bother to read the message well enough to see that rating is not the only way to get an invitation?
read the following again:

*** begin c&p****
Invitations will be awarded to:
*Top 50 Limited players
*Top 16 Constructed players
*Top 8 Eternal players
*Top 4 Other players
*Players who place 1st or 2nd in a trial (7/21-8/29)

***end c&p***

read the last line again (and again, if needed)

See? if you got a good game as you claim, it won't be that hard to qualify for the invitational.

Greetz Nico

by Conkisstador on 2008-07-30 15:48 MST

ashmatan isn't your rating approaching 1400? i don't think time helps with that. try to get lucky in a trial

by magic_man11 on 2008-07-30 22:47 MST

rofl at ashmatan, like seriously not enuf time? i think ive played in 3 trials and my rating is sitting at a nice 1841 and even then if ur that good a player u can always just play 1 trial and win? i mean come on its not that hard to get a que!

by Longblade on 2008-08-03 01:34 MST

...You guys complain ALOT for $90...

by RiQuSP on 2008-08-04 04:24 MST

Nice they moved it a week! Now I can play.. let's hope ill stay top50 limited for the next few weeks :D

@ashmatan: the limited cap is at 1720+- it's so easy to get that, when Kuberr is around he's spamming limited mini's like a madman..

by sys_down on 2008-08-04 07:23 MST

any info on how top 8 draft will work?

by Ronnan on 2008-08-04 09:02 MST

php draft under construction

by snoopster on 2008-08-04 23:45 MST

hurray for moving it back a week

by Ashmatan on 2008-08-05 14:59 MST

@ nico--yes I did read the last line to begin with. I have finished 2nd ONCE to Eldariel in a block trial. The only reason being that I lucksacked in my pairings 3/6 rds. I find it difficult to play in trials not cuz I'm playing against superior opponents most of the time, but cuz either they A) rules cheese like crazy or I B) get screwed over by MWS' infamous shuffler. I'm not ranting, just being factual.

@ conk--you can check out my profile any time you wish to see that it is not 1400, smartass. I had a very bad first few limited games losing to people who know how to use the system to their advantage. Probably 75% of the matches I've lost came down to the time factor and "whomever has more life when time is called wins" rule. I can only participate in about 3 trials a week cuz of the start time ( and I'm being generous to myself by saying that ) and 1 of those I won't play in cuz it's vintage or something and I just don't play that format. One thing I will agree with you on ( and most would have to agree ) is that there is a lot of luck involved in top 2ing a constructed trial. In fact IMO about 50% is play skill, 25% MWS shuffler, and 25% pairings (bad matchups one way or the other )Meaning every match is a coin flip essentially, and in my experience, I'm on the losing side of the 50% most of the time.
That is all.

by ZW on 2008-08-06 09:19 MST

You dont get screwed by the shuffler, it is as random as possible and is the same one your opponents use. Also, I havn't the slightest idea of how your opponents "rules cheese" you. They trick you into not responding to spells? Also, you say 75% of your matches come down to who has more life. In that case, either build a better deck, play a little quicker or just attack with creatures. I have been on here for about 6 months and have had a match come down to life once, maybe twice. There is nothing wrong with the MWS shuffler, it is perfect, it is just inconsistant deckbuilding. In real life you get bad hands too. Lastly, mtg is about 80% skill, 20% luck. If it wasn't so, the best players wouldn't keep winning. It is easier to get unlucky here because it is single elimination, but if you are good and play enough you will have success. That is all.

by TwoTrees on 2008-08-08 22:43 MST

Pv:
"I think its a good idea, but I don't think it makes any sense to invite t4 in 'other' - this seemns it's just giving 4 invites to the 4 judges who bother to make tournaments in formats only they know about the most"

Not true at all, there are lots of non judges around the top 10 in other category

by Ashmatan on 2008-08-09 10:02 MST

@ZW--obv you didn't read the entire post. 75% of the matches I've LOST. Not 75% of matches total. Also, I have to disagree with you about the shuffler. If it was perfect, then my ML rating would reflect my DCI rating, hands down. Among these 3 facts: the life rule, the "whoever wins game 1" rule, and the shuffler, I would be in the running for a bye in the master. and again, I don't have all the time in the world to sit in front of the computer waiting for minis. I have a life, a family, I don't go to college like most of the community, I go to work everyday, I'm not some albino that chooses to stay inside and veg out infront of a screen. I have housework to do, yardwork to do, a 6 year old. and a wife. When you get those things, if ever, you will find out what life is all about. Then you will find out how much time you have for magic. Hardly any. Unless you don't want to sleep.

by SoggyToast on 2008-08-09 23:42 MST

@Ashmatan: It took me just over a week to get into the top 50 Limited. If you aren't a scrub it's easy to advance here. Don't blame it on the program.

by snoopster on 2008-08-10 00:59 MST

the randomness of the mws shuffler has been challenged multiple times, studies have been conducted, and each time the shuffler has been shown to be completely random.

by Husapi on 2008-08-10 02:01 MST

mario bros

by Orlandu on 2008-08-10 10:01 MST

Whenever I hear people say that they can't stand the randomness of a truly random shuffler and that they do so much better IRL, I always question how ethical their shuffling method IRL is.

by ZW on 2008-08-10 10:07 MST

mario bros

by warwizard87 on 2008-08-10 11:04 MST

i have all those things to ashmann but i still don't bitch, honestly the mws shuffler is a bit off, but its off for every one else to not just you.

by Manipulation on 2008-08-11 00:19 MST

You guys still think its the shuffler thats causing problems? I thought everyone knew by now that its the Planeshift patch causing your horrific playing abilities.

by RiQuSP on 2008-08-19 11:13 MST

Rescedule it, I got a PTQ on the 30th of august :[