by Revik on 2007-11-15 15:57 MDT

OMG NOOB!

At least i lost to str8 in R3 in my 4th ever game of vintage.

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by Daveslusher- on 2007-11-15 15:57 MDT

i got a bye into finals. Stupid turn 1 flash with fow backup....my deck is another example of vintage not being a turn 2 format. Yes it's straight off of Chicago p9 with a change of 4 sb cards.

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by r0fl on 2007-11-15 16:45 MDT

threads of disloyalty > naught

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by sui_slush on 2007-11-15 19:18 MDT

stingscounger? really?

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by therooster on 2007-11-15 19:23 MDT

Aether Vial and Skullclamp in the same deck... oh how I wish that would have been legal in standard :P

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by Eldar on 2007-11-15 20:05 MDT

wow some real decks. all three from recent scg events gratz guys.

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by Conkisstador on 2007-11-15 21:09 MDT

well it is a turn 2 format... but now every deck gets so convoluted by disruption and they dabble in all the tricks so they cant get hated out.... means they go a full turn slower. going a turn slower actually enables other types fo hate. i think so much of t1 is luck of the draw that to wina big tournament your best chance is balls-to-the-wall combo

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by Tuesday on 2007-11-15 21:11 MDT

I am not even going to comment on the deck lists. The fact that Daveslusher did not lose in the first round and PLACED is more than enough to merit him a reward. Good job Dave!! Tuesday

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by gushatog on 2007-11-15 21:45 MDT

dave, how do u even beat hulk flash, it seems redundant that he got t1 kill

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by Daveslusher- on 2007-11-15 21:56 MDT

if i win the roll i play a mountain and pass......oh snap bolt......then kird ape then goyf...oh look i just won.

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by r0fl on 2007-11-15 23:05 MDT

yeah lightning bolt the heart sliver and delay a turn

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by on 2007-11-16 00:31 MDT

dont hate on the deck its actually really good, and conkisstador your an idiot and you know nothing about the format, and who ever said these decks are all from the recent scg is wrong bc flash never top8s scg, like dredge :P

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by LONE_GUNMAN on 2007-11-16 01:50 MDT

omg... green kird ape... skyshroud elite = green kird

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by LONE_GUNMAN on 2007-11-16 01:59 MDT

and where is the meta game breakdown?

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by sui_slush on 2007-11-16 02:20 MDT

no one answered my question about stingscrounger, are there still an abundance of decks that win through tinker > colossus?

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by on 2007-11-16 02:22 MDT

its not that theres a lot of decks that win through tinker, its just that its good vs stuff like gat also and vs oath

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by vincent on 2007-11-16 03:16 MDT

Stingscrounger was a card choice Jamison made because of the Dreadnaught decks out there.

This saddens me to see the complete lack of format knowledge on this site. Was anyone actually at my event in Chicago, or do you just comment without knowing anything about type 1?

It's FAR from a turn 1 format. The fact that Flash won this event tells me NO one was running the right decks in the meta game. TK's Deeznaughts owns flash, dawn of the dead (aka playmistakes might get there.dec) owns flash, and the new builds of long do too...

I'm not saying play the lists from scg events, but at least look at what's working for them, and why they keep bad decks like flash down.

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by vincent on 2007-11-16 03:18 MDT

btw, Jamison was actually kind of hating his own teammates out with the stingscouger tech, but it doesn't seem a bad choice since they got 9 guys there to only 1 of my GWS team mates =(

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by on 2007-11-16 03:22 MDT

i agree that the knowledge of t1 on this site is bad, and that flash is really bad, but not to hate on shooter as he is a good player

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by Daveslusher- on 2007-11-16 04:03 MDT

Meta Breakdown:
8 Flash
6 RG Chicago Stompy
1 DeezNaughts
2 Gat
3 Grim Long
2 Super long
3 Mana-less Ichorid
1 Narco-Bridge(Dredge w/o Ichorids)
1 Affinity
1 Banana fish
2 Sullivan Solution
1 Classic Fish(UWB)
1 TMWA (The Mountains win again)
4 Supreme Stax
2 Stax
2 Gush Tendrils
1 B/w Vial Solution
1 Mono Black Sui...with a 1996 champion...
1 Mono black Sui
1 .....U/w Extended Urza tron?
1 Spanish Goblins
1 Ninja-fish

This is suprising so out of ALL the people who played Chicago Stompy, me the scrub did well.....
Also, you can see that stax is still popular.

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by on 2007-11-16 04:26 MDT

stax is good (i played stax) because you can just get these unbeatable locks, expecially on the play so combo decks have a hard time beating it

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by Shooter on 2007-11-16 05:18 MDT

does the fact that I won 3 mirror matches means anything? I don't know anything about the format.

I won vs. the Deesznaught deck too. I lost 1 game to trickbind, stifle wouldn't hurt me (fow + 2 pacts to protect the combo). Is it a rly bad matchup?

this RG seems rly rly good :)

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by Yonthan on 2007-11-16 08:29 MDT

What is the use of snow-covered island in the Hulk Flash deck?

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by tcook589 on 2007-11-16 10:35 MDT

to bluff skred out of the sb.

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by Shooter on 2007-11-16 12:41 MDT

actually, it's to bluff mouth of ronom :p

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by Daveslusher- on 2007-11-16 12:47 MDT

it's because SC Islands are cool.

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by sui_slush on 2007-11-16 15:41 MDT

I admittedly don't know anything about the current state of the format, I played pretty much nothing but t1 from the beyond dominia days until odyssey, and still played a lot of it until kamigawa block. Now I just don't have the desire to focus my energy on a format that gets so little backing.

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by YTheAlien on 2007-11-16 16:01 MDT

I disagree with Vincent's comments. Sometimes you just get unlucky vs Flash - Game 2 I opened with Leyline and cast a Triskelion, which he then Forced and proceeded to finish beating me down with hardcast Slivers that he backed up with more Scrolled up countermagic. Sometimes you simply just lose against Flash (or Long, or Dragon, etc).

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by doctor_x on 2007-11-17 04:34 MDT

Saturday School questions matching "phyrexian dreadnought"
From Records Are Made to Be Broken by John Carter, Saturday, October 1, 2005:
Q: Does the Phyrexian Dreadnought / Stifle combo still work if it's a replacement effect? --John

A: Stifle doesn't work with the Dreadnought. Phyrexian Dreadnought's Oracle text has it as a replacement effect. This has been that way since before Stifle came out, so this never was a combo in the first place.

From Saturday School #29 by Rune Horvik, Saturday, May 24, 2003:
Q: Can Stifle help get a Phyrexian Dreadnought or Lotus Vale into play easier?

A: No. Phyrexian Dreadnought and Lotus Vale have replacement abilities that modify how they enter play – the abilities are not triggered or activated, and can't be countered by Stifle.

did the rule change in the past years or stifle just doesn't work on the dreadnaught?

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by YTheAlien on 2007-11-17 14:18 MDT

SCG's rulings are not current (obviously, since they're over two years old). Dreadnought was returned to a triggered ability in a recent rules update.

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by LONE_GUNMAN on 2007-11-26 23:19 MDT

was 1996 world champion removed from the tournament??? becuased it is in 1.5 and 1 without restrictions....accept the fact there is only 1

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by LONE_GUNMAN on 2007-11-26 23:20 MDT

and no one in the world knows where it is after the owner sold it....

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by IberianWolf on 2007-12-11 12:14 MDT

LOL @ the guy quoting two-year old rules.

cmon, start palying some stax, people! also, it's nice to see different decks.

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by XusOgnirg on 2007-12-26 20:08 MDT

LOL, T1 is sooooo retarded :)

gj all.

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by stopper on 2008-04-25 12:40 MDT

lol...i like how people call the RG deck chicago stompy...i agree..flash prob shouldnt have won becuase of the lack of good decks....i know very little about T1 but i did win the SCG P9 day 2 in chicago with the mud stax...which i thought was a good meta game deck...knowing how to play against each deck is key too..and that is a problem i have seen with people loosing matchups becuase they played wrong

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